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Wings of Inspired Business Podcast EP951 – Host Melinda Wittstock Interviews Lauren Morgan

Melinda Wittstock:

Coming up on Wings of Inspired Business:

Lauren Morgan:

When you start creating this business, you could be really excited. But if you’re having this moment of fear, of wondering if you’re good enough, if you’re worthy enough, if you can even do this, this energy is imprinted in the very beginning with your energy with the business that you’re trying to create. And so that’s where a lot of entrepreneurs start to struggle. Because as they’re stepping into this, the excitement starts to become replaced with fear, with doubt, with that subconscious thought that they can’t do this, it’s too overwhelming. They don’t know what they’re doing, and they start to look for outside sources to fix the problem instead of going in and seeing what they can do to co create with this business.

Melinda Wittstock:

As humans, we are all energy, vibrating at different frequencies—attracting and repelling others as we go about our business so it makes sense that the businesses we create also have a unique energy, and the energy healer and business coach Lauren Morgan says when we and our businesses are consciously aligned we step into the flow of abundance and joy. Today we talk conscious entrepreneurship and what that means in practice.

Melinda Wittstock:

Hi, I’m Melinda Wittstock and welcome to Wings of Inspired Business, where we share the inspiring entrepreneurial journeys, epiphanies, and practical advice from successful female founders … so you have everything you need at your fingertips to build the business and life of your dreams. I’m all about paying it forward as a five-time serial entrepreneur, so I started this podcast to catalyze an ecosystem where women entrepreneurs mentor, promote, buy from, and invest in each other. Because together we’re stronger, and we all soar higher when we fly together and lift as we climb.

Melinda Wittstock:

Today we meet an inspiring entrepreneur who believes every business has its own unique consciousness and energetic blueprint. Lauren Morgan is an energy master, trauma recovery and business coach on a mission to empower women overcome imposter syndrome, limiting beliefs and self-sabotage so they can turn their pain into purpose, transform their wounds into wisdom, and create heart-centered businesses. As the founder of Wild Wisdom, she brings her personal expertise with healing practices like Ayurveda, hypnosis, meditation, shamanism, energy work, and core belief work to help entrepreneurs grow abundant, purpose-driven businesses. From practical tools to deepen your relationship with your business, to raw stories of personal transformation and healing, Lauren opens up about her journey through trauma, self-discovery, and ultimately, leadership—and we talk about how to honor your purpose, break free of external conditioning and build a business aligned with your own unique gifts.

Melinda Wittstock:

Lauren will be here in a moment, and first:

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Melinda Wittstock:

What if your business is more than just a reflection of you and the value you create in solving problems for others? Lauren Morgan believes every business is a living entity with its own unique vibration, energy, and purpose. Instead of controlling every aspect, she encourages founders to consciously partner with their business, listening deeply to its needs and intuition. So how do you tune into your business’s energy? Often it is as simple as slowing down, creating space and quiet, and simply listening. Lauren says in such moments, you can sense your business’s needs, feel its vibe, and ask it for guidance – just like building a relationship with a person. And if you feel stuck, or you’re struggling to attract customers, this contemplative exercise can reveal the right path forward. Today Lauren shares her own journey from trauma to transformation and what transpires for her clients when they learn to honor their own uniqueness and align it with the energy of their business.

Melinda Wittstock:

Let’s put on our wings with the inspiring Lauren Morgan. 

[INTERVIEW]

Melinda Wittstock:

Lauren, welcome to Wings.

Lauren Morgan:

Hello, Melinda. Thank you so much. I’m so excited and honored to be here with you.

Melinda Wittstock:

Oh, thank you. You know, we talk on this podcast a lot, Lauren, about, the consciousness of an individual entrepreneur, and what it takes to really be in alignment, with your business. But what’s intriguing to me about what you do is that you’re actually focused, that the business itself sort of has a consciousness. We birth these businesses, and they have their own kind of deal with the universe. Explain what you mean by that.

Lauren Morgan:

Yes, it’s an amazing question. My belief is our business, like you said, has its own energy, has its own vibration, and it’s this living thing. And a lot of times when we start these businesses of ourselves, it’s through something that really inspires us, right? And what if the energy coming in is coming to you to co create with it instead of just being planted and without you having to do everything on your own? If you can learn to co create and exist with it, it really just opens the doors and allows you to kind of take a step back instead of feeling like you have to control everything to really understand that it’s this partnership, it’s this relationship, so you can kind of let go of the reins a little bit and just allow yourself to be with it. And it’ll tell you exactly what it needs to do, exactly what it needs to thrive. And when you can blend those pieces together, amazing things just unfold and are attracted to you.

Melinda Wittstock:

Well, people have enough of a problem trying to overcome all their subconscious conditioning and limiting beliefs and figure out their own consciousness, let alone their business’s consciousness. Right? So how does a founder, assuming they’re in alignment with themselves, how do they figure out what’s going on with the energetics of their business?

Lauren Morgan:

Oh, that is an incredible question. And the first thing I always suggest is to allow yourself the chance to slow down. And it’s this concept that is like, oh, well, obviously, you know, these amazing ideas come to us when we’re in a moment of stillness, but how often do we let ourselves actually do that?

Melinda Wittstock:

That’s true. I mean, people are pretty busy, you know, running around all the, all the to dos. Your business can trap you very quickly. And all the things that you have to get done, right, there’s always just a lot of things. A lot of them are external, a lot of them are necessary. Some of the deadlines are self-imposed, but some of them aren’t like tax filings and such, payroll, these sorts of things.

Melinda Wittstock:

Before you even start a business, you’re infusing your own energy into this thing that you’re creating. So how are those two things separated? Maybe is another way to ask the question.

Lauren Morgan:

Oh, yes, it’s a beautiful way to kind of just view it from another standpoint. And I would say I’m trying to put this in a way where it’s really simplified, right? Because this aspect of energy and business and consciousness is kind of foreign sometimes. And so, we have our own soul, right? As human beings, we have our own visions and things that we feel like we want to do in this lifetime, including our business. And we also often feel that we have to control every aspect of it. So, when we allow ourselves to release this sense of control, say, okay, maybe there is something more to it than just me, and allow yourself to be in that sense of who am I meant to serve? And replacing service with the idea of having to make financial abundance or success or all these things that we feel like we have to complete because of social conditioning or just growing up, the things that we feel like we have to do in this lifetime. And when we surrender to that process and allow ourselves to take a step back, we can understand that there’s more to this than just us.

Melinda Wittstock:

So, I’m fascinated with this idea because so much of an entrepreneur, I mean, and I’m talking about the type of entrepreneur who’s really innovating, not just opening up a business. But to me, entrepreneurship is about birthing something different that hadn’t existed before, or solving. Solving a problem in a unique way that can only come from somebody that has a unique vision. And is willing to live into that unique vision. So that person obviously has had inspiration in some way or another, no matter how conscious they are of it or not, they’ve had an inspiration to go create this business. So much like a mother birthing a child, right? The child has the kind of DNA of the mom and is like, you know, socialized by the mom. Okay, so replace mom with founder, founder, CEO, entrepreneur. But that child, I guess you’re saying, has its own life, its own energy beyond you. Right.

Melinda Wittstock:

How you balance that, where you let go. Where you let this thing that you birthed, you know, be an entity in and of itself and how you parent it. Is that a good way of describing it?

Lauren Morgan:

Yes, absolutely. I love how you bring this up, because I often use this analogy with my own clients. And so, if you can think of a mother, say, when she’s just, you know, she just finds out that she’s pregnant, what emotions may be coming up for her. She could be afraid, she could be excited, she could be nervous. She could be even at some point being like, wow, I don’t know if I even want this. There’s a whole plethora of emotions and thoughts that kind of come in.

Melinda Wittstock:

Right.

Lauren Morgan:

And so same with your business. If you’re creating your business, even if you have this amazing idea and this. And that’s really driving you, if you’re starting the creation, this birthing of your business, with these thoughts of you’re not good enough or you’re not worthy enough.

Lauren Morgan:

bring up about the mother because I use this a lot with my own clients. Because if you think about when you are a new mother, they’re just finding out that they have this life inside of them. There’s so many emotions can come forward. They may be excited, they may be a little fearful, they may start questioning everything, wondering if they’re ready, can they be a mom. All these things will come forward for them.

Lauren Morgan:

And it’s the same when you start creating this business. You could be really excited. But if you’re having this moment of fear, of wondering if you’re good enough, if you’re worthy enough, if you can even do this, this energy is imprinted in the very beginning with your energy with the business that you’re trying to create. And so that’s where a lot of entrepreneurs start to struggle. Because as they’re stepping into this, the excitement starts to become replaced with fear, with doubt, with that subconscious thought that they can’t do this, it’s too overwhelming. They don’t know what they’re doing, and they start to look for outside sources to fix the problem instead of going in and seeing what they can do to co create with this business, if that makes sense.

Melinda Wittstock:

Right, exactly. But the energy of the business, like so I’m a five-time entrepreneur and a two-time mom. And you can see from day one that your kids, you can see the things that they’re similar to you, right? And all the ways that they’re different from you and understanding their energy. So how do you actually understand. And that’s just obvious, it’s right in front of you. But with a business, especially something that you’re creating, you know, from day one, how do you know what the energy of your business is as opposed to your own energy?

Lauren Morgan:

Oh, that’s a fantastic question. And the best answer I can give for that is to really offer yourself, to communicate with it. Because just like our children, our pets, our spouse, we have to open ourselves, to listen, to hear. And each person, each child, each relationship has its own way of wanting to be heard and wanting to be expressed. When you really start the practice of opening yourself up to say, okay, business, I understand you have your own consciousness, I understand you have an agenda. What can I do? How can we work together so we can birth this and co create this Together instead of trying to keep everything so separate and what’s the word looking for and more or less fighting with it.

Melinda Wittstock:

Right. And so, when you say listen, okay, that’s easier for some people than others because some people listen to this. If they’re already on a conscious path, they probably get what you’re saying. Right. But I think a lot of people probably wouldn’t. It’s like, what, what am I supposed to do? How do I do that? How do I listen to my business? Like literally. Okay, like what? You know, right. For that kind of person, how do you explain that? Like practically, what are you going to be hearing from your business and how are you going to be hearing that?

Lauren Morgan:

Oh, beautiful, beautiful question. So, for every person it’s going to be different because we all have our own unique ways of tuning into things. So, some can visualize things very well. Other people can maybe hear things differently. Some people can see things; some people can just feel things. It’s like that we hear about the word intuition. I think everyone can really understand that intuition piece, that, that gut feeling that we have. And so that is a good starting point is to really identify with what you know about yourself now as to where your key elements are, as to start to tap into it deeper.

Lauren Morgan:

So, if you’re more of a visual person, you’re going to start seeing things more so that the business is trying to explain to you. If you’re more felt perceptive, you’re going to start feeling things, sensing things, knowing things.

Melinda Wittstock:

So, creating quiet space with meditation and with all these other techniques and whatnot, to be able to open yourself up to inspiration. Like the ideas that come to you. For instance, I get my best ideas when I’m walking my dog. Or I’m in the shower, I’m doing yoga. In other words, when I’m not surgically attached to my laptop or, like, looking at my QuickBooks or running payroll or like, whatever I’m doing, right, in the “doingness”. So, creating those gaps and silences to where you really do open yourself up to inspiration. So that makes sense to me for an individual and how that applies to your business. So, I think what I hear you saying is that you are in those quiet moments, you’re sort of asking, I guess, for guidance in terms of what does your business want to be in terms of where it’s going and what its vibe is. 

Lauren Morgan:

I think a good way to explain this is to think of any person that you meet, maybe at the grocery store or the checkout line or even virtually. Sometimes it feels like a cold outrage, right? You’re like, hey, how are you? I like your shirt. Or some people just start opening up to you. But when someone that you meet for the very first time, there’s like, this moment of uncertainty is how to lead this conversation. And it can start feeling that way when you start to open up to the consciousness of your business, where you’re learning how to speak that language, speak in a way where you can share openly and have your message come through clearly. And so, there is always that little bit of uncertainty as to how is this going to go. But if you think of your business having, we can say, being its own person, you have to give it a chance to speak. And a lot of it obviously won’t come verbally because it’s an energetic basis, but you will receive answers.

Lauren Morgan:

I know this can seem like, what is she even talking about? That doesn’t make sense. That’s just weird. But when you give yourself the opportunity to actually do it, it’s amazing the answers you will receive and the relationship and the conversation that will start when you just allow yourself to initiate that conversation.

Melinda Wittstock:

Right, exactly. So, what if you and your business are out of alignment? Do you see that with your clients? And what does that mean in practice? You’re going in a certain way, and you’re sort of imposing your own kind of will on something and you and your business are not, like, talking to each other.

Lauren Morgan:

Yes. Sometimes it’s hard to kind of wrap your head around it. But a lot of times people can sense this when things just aren’t working right. Like, for example, I had a client where every time she tried to do something with maybe booking a podcast or Posting something online, it just felt like a big flop, like nothing was moving forward. And then when I taught her the techniques to listen to the consciousness of her business and to just kind of tap into that and really sit with it, she realized that who she was trying to reach to, like who she thought her ideal clientele was, were actually not the people that really needed her services. So, the consciousness of her business was able to tell her to explain to her the shift that she needed to make as to what clienteles she could best serve with her knowledge base, her experience and her magic. She started to do that, her posts got more activity, she got more likes, her Instagram started to flourish, and she even started to book a lot more calls on her schedule because she just made that shift that her business was telling her to make.

Melinda Wittstock:

Right? So, and that’s to do with your business and your alignment with your clients and knowing who you’re actually serving. And that’s one of the key things that an entrepreneur has to do. Like you really have to understand who your customers are and all of that. So, you mentioned sort of the practical tools you use, Lauren, to help entrepreneurs kind of walk through this. So, let’s go through the practical tools.

Lauren Morgan:

Yes, absolutely. So again, it all starts with just allowing yourself space to be curious, to be open minded and to sit down in a space, no distractions, Put your cell phone down, put your laptop away and just sit and breathe. Is a great cause. You need to start it from a grounded perspective because if you’re not grounded, you’re still having your thoughts from yesterday, your worries for tomorrow, all the to do list coming through. So, you get grounded first and you can literally just say in your mind or out loud, okay, business, this beautiful energy that I’m calling in to have this conversation with, I’m here and willing and ready to start this conversation. And then you may feel things, you may sense things, you may begin to know things, and then you can just start asking questions. And anytime that to do list comes back in, you start to feel like, what is going on here? This is just weird. Go back to your breath, sit back down, recenter yourself.

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Melinda Wittstock:

And we’re back with Lauren Morgan, energy master and founder of Wild Wisdom.

[INTERVIEW CONTINUES]

Lauren Morgan:

And sometimes you can start over. Like, okay, I kind of got carried away with myself here. My mind got crazy. Let’s go back in. I’m willing and able to start receiving messages and guidance from this business and we start asking questions and developing that conversation. It’s really amazing at the direction you can go in.

Melinda Wittstock:

And so can you give me some before and after examples that just really super concrete of like Some of your clients and kind of where they were. And then what happened as a result of going through this process?

Lauren Morgan:

Absolutely. So, the first thing that comes to mind is my own experience with this. I own and operate two very different businesses. One is with my husband; we own and operate a lumber and hardware store. And then I have of course, my own spiritual coaching business. And in the beginning, when I was running this business with my husband, the lumber and hardware store, everything just felt like a huge struggle. Even the clientele we were bringing in just seemed very, just difficult to work with. And nothing seemed to be going right whatsoever.

Lauren Morgan:

And then I realized, okay, I have the tools to start this conversation, to ask my business what it needs, what it needs from us. How can we move through this and start to change our clientele? Having customers that maybe work with us better, who are easier to work with, who are kinder, and even bringing in more employees that align with our energy and what we’re trying to bring out into the world. And so, when I did that, it showed me so much. It showed me how to start to attract those other clientele, to bring in the customer base that was friendly and fun and easy to work with. And they’re just simple steps, just about outreaching, changing the way we even had the different. How we have different listings on our invoices. And it felt like magic almost, because when I started changing these small little pieces, different people started coming in. Our clientele base changed.

Lauren Morgan:

We started having random people come in that wanted to work with us for our employee base. That we didn’t have an add up was exactly what we needed because of these small changes that I was making. Another example I have is with a client of mine. She was a realtor, and she had this very spiritual background, and she loved being a realtor, but she felt like there’s something more that she wanted to do with her life. She wanted to be a coach of her own, but she had no idea where to start. She’s like, this is a huge shift, completely different than where she was before. I taught the techniques of listening to her business, creating this conversation, honoring the consciousness that it has this energy of its own. And when she started to do that, she started to receive very clear guidance as to what step to take, as to who to reach out to, as to what’s the clientele base that was best for her, for her giving service to the world.

Lauren Morgan:

And it became a really smooth transition. And she was so dumbfounded because she admitted that early in the stages, she’s like, I didn’t really think any of this would work. I didn’t really know if I believed in any of this. But through practice and actually doing this process and trusting herself and trusting the consciousness of the business, it became very fluid and simple and had its own pace of its own. And the more she surrendered to that process, she was like, wow. She’s like, I really can be a coach. She’s like, I really can do this. And it was all because she followed the roadmap that was laid before her with the energy of her business.

Melinda Wittstock:

Right? Yeah. This is really, really important. I mean, I talk a lot on this podcast about the link between spiritual growth and business growth. When you’re in that kind of alignment, when you actually understand kind of energy and all that kind of stuff, right? Like, you’re just more likely to kind of manifest what it is you actually want. And what you actually want consciously might be different from what you actually want subconsciously. So, let’s take it back to the individual for a moment.

Melinda Wittstock:

What are some of the things that your clients are dealing with in terms of just even understanding themselves? Are they actually going in the direction that they think they’re going in when they launch businesses?

Lauren Morgan:

Yeah. This is a powerful question I feel like everyone can relate to, because when we really start to take a step back and do our own inner work, we can start to see that we have this conditioning and these beliefs and this mold or this box we put ourselves in. That’s not what we want. Not who we want to be and not what we want to bring out into the world. And when we do the inner work, which is the foundation, I feel like, for everything, really, healing isn’t just about feeling better. It’s about owning your power and leadership and spiritual entrepreneurship. It’s not about outdated strategies or fitting into someone else’s mold. It’s.

Lauren Morgan:

It’s about embodiment. It’s about aligning your energy, your voice and your business with who you truly are. And I really feel like and believe that when you honor your uniqueness, your quirks, just the different characteristics of who you are and allow them to show through, that’s embodiment, and that is leadership.

Melinda Wittstock:

Yeah. 100% so, so true. And so how, Lauren, did you get into all of this? You’ve been helping people a lot with, like, trauma recovery. You know, you’re an energy master. You’re familiar with so many different healing practices, right? From hypnosis to meditation, energy work, all of These different modalities. So, tell me a little bit about your journey. How, how did you get to where you are? What was the thing that made you interested in all these things to begin with and become an expert in them?

Lauren Morgan:

That is a beautiful and deep question. So, it really started with just healing myself because at age 11, I was clinically depressed. My teenage years were filled with me burning my own flesh to mask my emotional pain. And by the time I was 19, I had already tried to kill myself four different times. I can still remember the weight and the feeling of the gun in my hand and the sound it made when it misfired.

Melinda Wittstock:

Oh, my goodness. Oh.

Lauren Morgan:

And my 20s were filled with more self-destructive behavior. In my early 30s, or sorry, late 30s, I was having seizures every single day because of this medical mystery that doctors could not figure out, could not diagnose, could not treat. It was just the only thing they could do was to give me a number to a psychiatrist because they told me it was all in my head. But I received this moment of clarity when I understood that I had to take healing into my own hands. And I understood finally this epiphany that everything was connected. My depression, my eating disorders, my suicide attempts, this medical mystery, these seizures, everything was connected to when I was 6 years old and I was raped. And I remember this day so vividly. Another piece of clarity came in when I was walking my dogs through a field behind my house.

Lauren Morgan:

And this was already I had to actually leave my career as a biopharmaceutical scientist because my body just couldn’t keep up with me. It felt like it was failing. But as I was walking my dogs in the field behind my house, the sky was like this perfect picture color blue. The grass was just over my knees and there’s beautiful just wind going through my hair. And I was watching my dogs just running through the field, having such a joyous time, their heads popping out of the grass, just living it up. And as I was watching them, I became so overfilled with emotion. I actually became jealous and angry because I realized in that moment watching them that I had not felt that level of joy in a very long time. And so, I fell to the ground screaming and crying and releasing this animalistic noises from every ounce of my body.

Lauren Morgan:

And I even remember lifting two middle fingers up to the sky and giving God, Source Universe Creator, a giant double fuck you. I was that deep in pain and in that moment, sobbing in the dirt, feeling completely raw. This small voice came through, this sweet, tender voice that told me that Life was not meant to be this hard. Life was not meant to be this difficult or painful. And in that moment, something inside of me shifted. That small voice became my guiding force. And for the first time, I wasn’t just surviving, I was choosing to live. To experience life full of love and joy and curiosity.

Lauren Morgan:

But I knew that to do so I had to do the work and not the surface level, just think positive kind of work. The deep, uncomfortable, soul shaking work. So, I turned to Ayurveda, and I learned how my body had been screaming for balance. I explored shamanism and realized how trauma had been imprinted in my energy for decades. And hypnosis helped me rewrite and remove the subconscious patterns that kept me feeling stuck and small and in this negative, self-destructive cycle. And I didn’t just study these modalities, I lived them, I breathed them, I integrated them until they became a part of me. And as I healed, I started to see the world in myself differently. In that process, I found my purpose.

Lauren Morgan:

And that’s when I knew that this is what I was meant to do. I was meant to help others. So, I took everything I learned, every tool, every practice, every breakthrough, every setback, and began helping others to do the same. And so that brings me to here, where I am now, where I help bold, ambitious and soul led entrepreneurs to heal their worthiness wounds, to align with their purpose, to co create with the energy of their business and to find a level of success, their version of success, that feels deeply fulfilling. Because when you fully step into your power, when you own your voice, your gifts, your magic, you don’t just change your own life. That’s how you change the world.

Melinda Wittstock:

Wow, that’s so moving. You know, it’s funny when we go through the kind of suffering, Lauren, that you were obviously going through, you know, when you, you mentioned just, you know, the, the impulse to want to take your own life and, and that suffering. I’m having a hard time finding words because I guess what I’m saying is that we, we, we walk through a lot of these really difficult times for a reason and so we can help other people and, and so, Lauren, thank you so much for sharing that in such a raw. And it’s, it’s humbling. In the way that you shared your journey and, and, and, and what you’ve been through, you know, to get where you are. 

Lauren Morgan:

Absolutely.

Melinda Wittstock:

You know, you can kind of say, well, that happened to me, or it happened for me. And I think we’re living in times right now where people are very unmoored and very unhinged and very confused and very worried and suffering for all sorts of reasons. And so, it’s an important message for people to take inspiration from. So, thank you for, for sharing that.

Lauren Morgan:

Absolutely. And I like to remind people that it’s so easy to go back down that road of thinking, like you said, where everything’s happening to me, and we forget that we have our own discernments, we have our own inner power, and we really can change our lives just by small, simple acts where we just start to love ourselves for exactly who we are. We love ourselves for the things that we’ve experienced, even the most painful things. And when you start to love every aspect of you, allow it to come through, allow the sacred rage to come through. However you need to heal and honor those pieces of you, you really start to sit with them and give them that unconditional attention and voice and love. That’s where true healing and true transformation really starts.

Melinda Wittstock:

Yeah, I mean, most people don’t love themselves. We have that inner bully voice, right, that, that, you know, finds fault totally. And we’ve all been conditioned that way. Our media or social media, just everything about our society puts us into this ‘comparisonitis.’ We’re taught to not be enough, when actually we have everything like acorns, you know, we have everything within ourselves to grow into tall, strong kind of oak trees.

Melinda Wittstock:

But we’ve all been sold this bill of goods that that’s not possible. We’ve got to strive, we’ve got to be something different than who we are rather than embracing our, our own power. We live in very difficult times right now, very polarized times. I can’t imagine that that’s not impacting a lot of your clients as well. And I’m talking about the political situation that we’re in. And isn’t it kind of a moment of, well, I guess we got to be our own leaders, right?

Lauren Morgan:

Yes, absolutely. And I love how you bring this up because it’s true. It feels like this epidemic almost where it’s like, who, who am I, how am I supposed to love myself when I see this person on social media? Like you said, the comparisonitis, those a brilliant term. And we keep searching and searching outside of ourselves. 

Melinda Wittstock:

We all have our own paths. And like, at the end of the day, I’ve. I’ve come to realize I’m happiest not from material things or not from anything I’m trying to prove to anybody else, but from who I’m helping. Right? From just the gratitude for nature and beauty around me, you know, for relationship, for experience, for learning. Like those are all the things that are actually provide happiness, actually.

Lauren Morgan:

Totally. It’s living life like your own unique way, where I used to think that once I lost the weight, once I built the house, once I got the comfy corporate job, I can’t say those words together, comfy corporate job, that I would be happy. But happiness didn’t come when I achieved those things because I realized that that’s not how I wanted to live my life. And so now I live literally in a camper off grid. And my husband and I, we are overdoing the school bus so we can travel the country and lead retreats and just be more in tune with nature. And for me, that’s success. But some people might think she’s living in a camper on purpose. Who would do that? But it gives me so much more fulfillment than living in this house that I thought was supposed to bring me happiness or having this corporate job that paid the bills and had a comfy paycheck, but it did not fulfill me whatsoever.

Lauren Morgan:

So, you have to find your own unique way of what makes you happy and give a finger to all the other conditioning that all those different ways that we felt like before that we had to succeed or to live or to be happy. We each have our own unique path. And when we follow that, oof. That’s where the truth happiness really comes in.

Melinda Wittstock:

100%, this is really true. But it’s interesting about happiness because I look at the world’s richest man, okay. And the second richest man and the third richest man. I’m thinking about all the, you know, Musk and Zuckerberg and Bezos. They don’t look like happy people to me, I guess. 

Melinda Wittstock:

Every entrepreneur wants to build this really successful business and, and money is a marker of that. How much money is the business making? How fast is it growing, growing? And I notice a real difference between male and female entrepreneurs, and it’s not always the case, but more often than not, women tend to go to, on into entrepreneurship because they have a mission. They see a problem or something that they want to solve to help other people.

Lauren Morgan:

Yes.

Melinda Wittstock:

And I think women entrepreneurs have a real opportunity to use business in such a way, and I think they tend to do that. But it’s sort of out of alignment with, say, if you’re running the type of business that needs venture funding, the venture people, they’re still operating in this other paradigm. And so, if you apply energy to, say, the United States at this moment, what do you think is going on? It’s so polarized. This, this really, and I’ll get into the, the, the fight between the archetypal masculine and the archetypal feminine seems to be going on or just amplified in terms of the structures of, of how we live, how we’re governed, how we do business? It seems like pretty titanic fight actually going on at the moment. What’s your perspective on that?

Lauren Morgan:

Yeah, that is a really deep and beautiful conversation that would probably take hours to really go into it. But it’s what I see from my perspective. Yeah, yeah, it’s just, it’s more, it’s more conditioning. Right. Because even the masculine, the feminine, they have their own unique versions of conditioning. And we’re at this era now where a lot of us, even masculine and the feminine, we’re really starting to see that and to feel that, and now we’re starting to break that Mold and with the feminine spiritual side of things and creating our own feminine businesses and the divine masculine, it’s bringing these all together as different pieces and knowing that it’s still a box that we are trying to break out of. And when you start to step into something new, it’s freaking uncomfortable. It’s weird.

Lauren Morgan:

It doesn’t feel right because we’re not used to it yet. But we have the opportunity to really continue to break that mold and to birth something new and different and to find that alignment that we’re all desperately trying to find. But there’s no roadmap for it because we’re in someplace new. We haven’t been there yet.

Melinda Wittstock:

And I also think in terms of the masculine and the feminine, I think the highest state of being is ending the duality between those two. Because when you can embody the highest expression of both of those energies within yourself, then you’re actually onto something. And I think that’s true for society as a whole. It’s true for the individual business, all of it. How do you balance all these things? Right.

Lauren Morgan:

Could you imagine what the world would be like if people on Wall street are president, all these political people, if they just meditated more?

Melinda Wittstock:

Oh, my.

Lauren Morgan:

Outside in nature more, putting their feet on the ground in the mud?

Melinda Wittstock:

Yeah, well, the ketamine is not working for Musk, you know, I’m sure for some people would be helpful, you know, in terms of overcoming their trauma. There’s a lot of healing that has to happen. So, I thank you for your good work in helping people to this and this new way of reconnecting with themselves, because the answer to everything is there. I want to make sure people, anyone listening to this, this really resonates with them. And they really want kind of an understanding, a better understanding of themselves, their energy, how it connects to their business, how to be more in alignment, how to be in that flow, that state of abundance.

Melinda Wittstock:

What’s the best way to find you and work with you?

Lauren Morgan:

Yes, thank you. You can find me @Wild Wisdom Coach.com, that’s my website. Or if you’re just kind of like, still a little curious and maybe want to, like, you know, stalk me on Instagram a little bit, you can find me at Lauren’s Wild Wisdom all right.

Melinda Wittstock:

Thank you so much for putting on your wings and flying with us today.

Lauren Morgan:

Thank you, Melinda. It was such an honor.

[INTERVIEW ENDS]

Melinda Wittstock:

Lauren Morgan is an energy master, business coach and trauma recovery expert on a mission to help women entrepreneurs get unstuck with her business Wild Wisdom.

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