854 Keisha Greaves: Adaptive Fashion for the Disabled

“I wake up each day. I’m not knowing what my body wants to feel like. There’s some days my body’s so tired when my home health aides may come to get me out the bed. This muscular dystrophy, I didn’t ask for it. It came out of nowhere. And I pretty much, it controls me. I wake up every day and this muscular dystrophy tells me what it wants to do. So, kind of balancing that and running a business can have its challenges. I can’t say, “Hey, muscle dystrophy, you come back tomorrow. I have a fashion show today.”

Get ready to be inspired because it’s not every day we meet a solopreneur building a successful business who also suffers from a debilitating disease like muscular dystrophy. When Keisha Greaves was diagnosed at age 24, she turned adversity and her fashion background into inspiration, supporting the disability community with her adaptive tees, hoodies, accessories, and swimwear. It’s an incredible journey I can’t wait to share.

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Today we meet an inspiring entrepreneur who doesn’t let anything get in the way of her success. Entrepreneurship is hard enough without adding muscular dystrophy to the list of challenges.

Keisha Greaves went on a mission to celebrate those with Muscular Dystrophy and other chronic illnesses to look their best with the convenience of clothes that are easy to put on and take off with her company Girls Chronically Rock. And if that wasn’t enough, she also founded two non-profits:  The GCR Adaptive Project, providing adaptive fashion supplies and tools to college fashion students so they can learn to design more inclusively, and the Trust Your Abilities Nonprofit for People of Color, helping people of color in the disability community access much needed resources and support, from uninsured medical equipment to accessible vehicles and school scholarships. It’s no surprise Keisha has been featured in several national media outlets including Good Morning America, The Today Show, ABC News, and more. One of her proudest moments was being featured in Today Style Heroes 2018.

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What is it like to find inspiration in a debilitating disease to help so many others as an entrepreneur? Today’s interview with Keisha Greaves will put all your challenges building a business into fresh perspective because this inspiring solopreneur has built a successful for-profit helping the disabled community look and feel their best with adaptive fashion as well as two non-profits. And if that weren’t enough, Keisha worked with Massachusetts Governor Charlie Baker to get September 30^th officially proclaimed as Limb-Girdle Muscular Dystrophy Awareness Day, and has been featured on Good Morning America and the Today Show.

Let’s put on our wings with the inspiring Keisha Greaves and be sure to download the podcast app Podopolo so we can keep the conversation going after the episode.

Melinda Wittstock:

Keisha, welcome to Wings.

Keisha Greaves:

Hi. Hello. I’m happy to be here.

Melinda Wittstock:

Well, I’m excited to hear all about Girls Chronically Rock because so many of the best businesses, they’re founded by founders who’ve had a personal experience themselves as you have, that have led you on that journey. So, what did it take to get that going?

Keisha Greaves:

Sure. I would say definitely I always had a passion for fashion. I always like to express that and always had that entrepreneurial just kind of mindset. Wanted to own my own business, make my own money and not work for anyone else. So, Girls Chronically Rock was started in 2017 because I was diagnosed with actually muscular dystrophy in 2010 when I was actually in graduate school. So, I wanted to create something to help inspire and motivate others in the disability community.

Melinda Wittstock:

So, you combined basically this mission with a passion for fashion. And so, tell me about what an adaptive t-shirt or hoodie is.

Keisha Greaves:

Sure. So of course, yeah. So as far as adaptive clothing for people with disabilities, that is something I wanted to incorporate actually after I created my regular shirts because people don’t understand things we took for granted. I took for granted as being a able-bodied person of just getting dressed on a daily basis. It was very time-consuming, it can take a lot of work. It’s like you’re pretty much exhausted after you come off from the shower. So with adaptive fashion, it kind of like with my adaptive, I have Velcro coming down all down on the left-hand side, which will be easy for someone like myself to easily rip it off and Velcro it back on when and getting dressed. Now for me, I have my home health aids to help me get dressed on a daily basis. And even they see a difference with adaptive fashion of having the hooks on either the T-shirt, the Velcro, it can have magnetic snaps or a zipper coming down the side or the back where it’s easily just to put my arms in and for my aides to help me get dressed.

And even they say, they’re like, we see a difference with helping you get dressed with adaptive to non-adaptive clothing. And they said, even though they don’t have a disability, they’re like, I would totally rock this adaptive wear. So, it’s like, yes, it was made for people with disabilities, but I’m like, anybody can wear this exclusive wear. And I’m so happy designers I looked up to growing up, like Tommy Hilfiger now has an adaptive clothing line and I heard on clothes in Target are now incorporating that as well. So, I’m excited to see that now branching and bringing that awareness within the fashion industry.

Melinda Wittstock:

That’s fantastic because it is, you’re right. It is something that able-bodied people don’t really think about.

Keisha Greaves:

Right.

Melinda Wittstock:

I’m fully able-bodied and I struggle with some of my clothes, get that zipper really can I actually reach-

Keisha Greaves:

Right.

Melinda Wittstock:

Get that. And so, just the convenience but it just makes so much sense. And so, I imagine there are quite a few different markets that you address. I mean, how many people roughly in the United States? Well, how big is your market?

Keisha Greaves:

Yeah, I would say it’s over a million people. Honestly yes because I did a survey, I took questions, and so many people have so many struggles and it’s not really out there. So, that’s why I create the adaptive T-shirts with along the adaptive swimwear as well. So, I did a survey on that because a lot of people may think, oh, well swimwear, that’s just seasonal, that’s for vacation in summer. And I’m like, no, no, no. Someone like myself in a wheelchair have muscular dystrophy, weakened body during the pandemic or prior, I was going to aquatic therapy twice a week. And I tell people when I am in the water, I feel like a mermaid. So, I was like, imagine getting out from the water now, having to hold on for dear life, holding onto your wheelchair, having that balance of someone like myself holding onto a cane with the muscular dystrophy.

So, imagine taking off that bathing suit. So, I wanted to create something that was more accessible, more function-able to make it easier to take on and off when going to aquatic therapy, going on vacation. And for us to feel confident within our own skin because I think that’s so important. So, I just kind of wanted to incorporate that. But it’s a huge range out there. I mean, I have muscular dystrophy. I also have a colostomy bag where I’m now trying to pivot things to maneuver that around. Something’s not tight-fitting on the bed, but there’s so many different disabilities that people are not aware of. Some of them are visible, some of them are invisible. And so, I just want to also keep that in mind where I’m like, you never know what someone’s dealing with or their daily struggles.

Melinda Wittstock:

This is so inspiring to me because why shouldn’t people that have disabilities look great? I mean, I imagine just not only at the-

Keisha Greaves:

Right.

Melinda Wittstock:

But it actually improves your confidence to feel fashionable and be seen.

Keisha Greaves:

Exactly.

Melinda Wittstock:

Tell me about some before and after stories of some of your customers, not only from a convenience standpoint, but what does it do to lift their confidence or literally that aspect of being seen. Because so many times my perception in society is that a lot of able-bodied people sort of almost ignore, don’t even see people who have disabilities.

Keisha Greaves:

Right. So, glad you brought that up. So, I love when I get messages of people of just like, oh my God, Keisha, I love your adaptive wear. I’m having struggle finding this bathing suit or everyday putting on this T-shirt. In one inspiring story that happened to me earlier this year, it was in June, out here in Boston, there was a open runway fashion show where I brought my models down. We had them incorporate the adaptive fashion. And then I come home later on that day and I get a message from a lady, she was like, I’ve just seen your fashion show downtown Boston. I’m someone who is a cancer patient. I go to chemotherapy once a week. And she was like, I just purchased one of your adaptive T-shirts. And so, just that alone just made me feel like I got emotional just reading it because cancer very much runs into my family.

Unfortunately, my dad passed away from it. My mom had breast cancer, but thank God she’s in remission. So, when I got that message, I’m like, oh my goodness. It’s like, you never know who’s watching. And I’m like, this is just a motivation to keep going. So, I sent her the T-shirt and she’s in chemo, she sends me a picture of her doing her chemo with her nurse there. And it was so easy for her because she was like able to zip down the T-shirt while they was able to do the port for her chemo. And I’m like, oh my goodness, this is so amazing. And I saved that picture and I still keep in contact with her because these are the messages and stories I like to express and feel because I’m like this motivates me and inspires me to Keisha, keep going because some days I could doubt myself.

Are people seeing the girls chronically walk? Are they understanding my mission and seeing what I’m striving to be? So, when I got that message, I’m like, wow, here I was just last minute wanting to do this open runway show, not really thinking of all looking at the audience, just focusing on my models. And it just reminded me, A, you never know who’s watching, B, continue to do what you do. And so, when she sent me that picture, I’m like, oh. And she said, even the nurses were like, this is so amazing. This adaptive clothing makes it easier for the nurses and for the patient and for her to feel like happy. She was just smiling while doing chemo, wearing my adaptive T-shirts. So, that just made me so emotional and was such an inspiring story that I just love to share with whoever I’m speaking to. So, when you ask that, I’m like, yeah, when I get messages from customers, I’m like, oh, you know what I mean? They believe in me and that definitely motivates me to keep going.

Melinda Wittstock:

Well, it’s an outlet too. I know for clothing, it’s a way to express our creativity, feeling, and all of these sorts of things as well as the convenience. So, when you were first getting going and you were trying to figure out how to design all of this, obviously your own experience would’ve informed that, but what was the process going through? What are the right materials, where to put, if you don’t have a zipper and you have Velcro, where best to place that, all these sorts of things. What was the process?

Keisha Greaves:

Yeah, so the process was someone like myself, who I said mentioned, always been into fashion. I actually studied fashion design and merchandising in school at Framingham State University out here in the state where I live. So, just going to school, we didn’t learn anything about adaptive fashion, but I learned the different tools in the process of just making a regular garment. So, of course this kind of opened up my eyes to a whole big range, like wait, it’s hard for me to just put on T-shirts and clothing that I used to put on in seconds before. So, I thought I’m learning more about adaptive fashion. So, I’m learning, I’m doing surveys, I’m sending them out to my people in my support groups that have muscular dystrophy, that have lupus, any chronic illness, disability you may think of because I want to get a range of different disabilities and chronic illnesses.

So with that, I just kind of incorporated, went to my sketchbook and then was like, you know what? I wear T-shirts every day. I would love for this to be more easier and accessible to put on a daily basis, as far as the same as the swimsuits. So, once I did my surveys and answered my questions, I just pretty much went straight to the drawing board and then worked with the manufacturer out of Canada, and he’s the one who was able to produce my Adaptive Swimwear Collection for people with disability. So, the process was also fun, exciting, but I feel like I’m learning something new every day. I tell people that all the time. I’m like, I don’t know it all, but I’m like, I’m learning and I’m striving every day being a part of different support groups like Boston Business Women, Women Helping Women, being on awesome podcasts like yours and networking has really helped me along the way with making this process easier and getting the support from my disability community.

But I would say the process definitely takes time because you want to make sure you do it. And I feel like I’m still learning. There’s still more I want to do. I want to create adaptive sweatsuits and hoodies. Someone like myself, winter’s coming, going to doctor’s appointments. I just want to throw on my hoodie without struggling me and my aides to put it on. So, I want to create something with the zipper in the back. So, it’s like I have all these ideas, it’s just a matter of getting the funding to get it manufactured into a big production. But I would say the process for me is fun. I get a lot of my inspiration honestly, from sleeping at night. I tell people, they ask, oh, when do you get your creative ideas and my different wordings on T-shirts? Honestly, I would just be lying in bed sleeping, and then I wake up with these inspirational words or different designs, created in my head, and it kind of just sticks with me from there.

Melinda Wittstock:

Oh, I love that. It’s such a wonderful creative process. It’s so funny I’ve found in my life too, and in all my businesses, my best ideas come to me when I’m not working. You could be in the shower or sleeping on the bed, you wake up in the middle of the night, that’s where that phrase comes from. I’m just going to sleep on it.

Keisha Greaves:

Exactly.

Melinda Wittstock:

The solution.

Keisha Greaves:

It’s so true.

Melinda Wittstock:

Or through meditation or through a whole bunch of different things, walking the dog, whatever.

Keisha Greaves:

Right.

Melinda Wittstock:

So, you mentioned before that there are other more mainstream designers starting to incorporate this in. What would you like to see happen in the fashion world generally? Where would you like to see it be? Should all designers be adding this to their compliment of designs?

Keisha Greaves:

Of course in a perfect world, in my world and GCR world, I would love for all designers to incorporate adaptive clothing because like I said, it’s yes, it may be made for us people in the disability community, but it could really be for everybody. I’m like, look at my perfect example of my aides saying like, “Hey, I would totally rock this.” You know what I mean? They struggle with just getting dressed, as you mentioned. And so yes, it would be awesome if all designers would incorporate that. Now, like Tommy Hilfiger, I’m hoping different designers, like designer I looked up to Betsy Johnson. I love her and her quirkiness. I would love for her to do an adaptive line for Betsy Johnson because I still love her to this day. So yeah, it would be awesome if all designers incorporated that, not just incorporated adaptive clothing, but also incorporate people with disabilities on the runway. I just did fashion-

Melinda Wittstock:

Yes, on the runway. Exactly because-

Keisha Greaves:

Yes, I think it’s so important.

Melinda Wittstock:

We’ve watched a number of trends. It took a long time, but now you see women of different body shapes and sizes and such, right?

Keisha Greaves:

Exactly.

Melinda Wittstock:

It’s not just the kind of stick thin supermodel. Everybody’s got to be the same. So, we’ve started to see more of that, but wouldn’t it be wonderful, and I just had this kind of thought, what would it be like? You should collaborate with Betsy Johnson. Why don’t you get together with her?

Keisha Greaves:

Love that. Exactly. I’ve been sending emails. I’m just trying to get her attention. I’ve been tagging her on Instagram, social media. I’m like, come on Betsy, let’s go.

Melinda Wittstock:

But that would be definitely a way to do it. And I just think I can’t help it. It would be good for them from a marketing perspective to show that they’re doing good for the world beyond just selling nice things, right?

Keisha Greaves:

Right.

Melinda Wittstock:

And so, you see that in the fashion world where, I don’t know, I just noticed Patagonia launched a jacket that’s made of garbage.

Keisha Greaves:

I love creative things like that though.

Melinda Wittstock:

So, there’s lots of different things we can do for the environment, for people with disabilities, so many different things and that kind of mission. And so, are there any particular types of fabrics that you find you need to use or can you use existing fabrics and it’s really about the fastenings, or tell me a little bit more about that?

Keisha Greaves:

Yeah, sure. I know for me, I like anything more cotton, more loose material. So, everybody’s different. But I just love anything that’s like as I mentioned earlier, I have now a colostomy bag, which I got about two years now. So, anything kind of loose fitting around the belly I know helps with me. And I heard other people say that as well. They just want to be comfortable, but still look fashionable and awesome at the same time. So, as far as fabric, I have used existing fabric. Some of my T-shirts I have here that I had in the past, I kind of hack those, as I call it.

I did a hackathon where I just would cut up my T-shirts, I sewed it, and I did magnetic snaps on it to make it easier to open and close to kind of give it that more roomy thing when going over the head. So, I did that over the shoulders and I was like, oh, this is pretty awesome. But I was like, I think I like it even better with it coming down even on the side of the shirt to rip the whole thing open. So, things like that I kind of like to experiment and go through. But yeah, I have used existing T-shirts and fabrics I have here and pretty much hack those to make them adaptive.

Melinda Wittstock:

And so, tell me a little bit more about how all your adaptive clothing is sold. Is this all available just, is it an e-commerce or is it available in stores, on Amazon? How do you do all of that?

Keisha Greaves:

Yeah, so right now I am solely e-commerce. I sell through Shopify. So, my website is girlschronicallyrock.com. But I am honestly trying to get into retail channels such as Target, Kohls, and Macy’s. So, just a matter of them, I guess just giving me a chance. But I have been sending them emails. I have been tagging them in New York Fashion Week where I just did earlier September. So, I feel like it would be a great opportunity. So, it is just a matter of them, kind of the balls in their court. But I’m looking to get into Target, especially Target’s my number one. Who doesn’t love Target? And so, I would just love to get in there. But right now it’s solely on the website, girlschronicallyrock.com.

Melinda Wittstock:

And it sounds like you’re very busy on social media. You’ve mentioned a couple of times-

Keisha Greaves:

I try.

Melinda Wittstock:

Tagging people and all that kind of stuff. Is that how you got the word out mostly or in partners-

Keisha Greaves:

Yeah, pretty much. I would say pretty much because I tell people when I was first diagnosed with muscular dystrophy, remember here I was in my early twenties not knowing, getting that news. I’m like, well, what does my future hold? What is going to happen? So, I thought the doctors really had all everything mixed up. I’m like, I don’t have muscular dystrophy. So, what helped me was going on social media, even hashtagging disability awareness, hashtag muscular dystrophy. And I met so many other people in the disability community, which kind of helped me come out of my shell. Like, Keisha, you’re not alone. Seeing other people of color like myself that have a disability, striving, doing creative work, doing fashion, I’m like, okay, Keisha, you’re not alone. You got this. And so, that’s kind of when I got more hooked on social media, blogging, doing all that stuff, joining support groups, not with just disabilities, but non-disabilities of women entrepreneurs.

And I’m like with so many awesome people out there where I can learn and grow from. And that has definitely helped me along the way. But I feel like using hashtags has definitely helped me connect and meet with the other people. Joining support groups and then, yeah, the hashtagging. But whenever I post something new, whether it be a new design, new T-shirt, any event or fashion show I did, I definitely tag different major, Good Morning America, Oprah Daily. I’ve been trying to get her attention. I’m tagging Target and Kohl’s. I’m just hoping one day they notice it and see and say, “Hey, look at Keisha from Girls Chronically Rock. Let’s get her in here.”

Melinda Wittstock:

Yeah, I could see you being a television personality, a segment on Today’s Show.

Keisha Greaves:

Thank you. [inaudible 00:17:54] fingers crossed.

Melinda Wittstock:

And so, when you think five years out, Keisha, what is in your wildest dreams about where you want to be with your business?

Keisha Greaves:

I would say my wildest dreams, honestly, Girls Chronically Rock, building that empire. As I mentioned, continuing to tag these designers I look up to. I would love to ideally collaborate with Betsy Johnson. I feel like my collection right now even aligns with her and her colorfulness and all her tutu. She loves to wear, I would love to collaborate with designer Tommy Hilfiger because I grew up loving him, wearing his clothes. My mom used to work at Filene’s, and so I would love to just build that Girl’s Chronically Rock empire, collaborate with major designers, go on Shark Tank, have one of them invest in my business and just build that Girls Chronically Rock empire and have people know, you know what Girls Chronically Rock is. It’s not just about clothing, but also a movement, and that’s my goal. And bringing that disability advocacy and awareness to the disability community.

Melinda Wittstock:

And so, what have been some of the most difficult challenges you’ve had to overcome along the way? Because entrepreneurship is hard for anybody, right? It really is because a lot of things you can’t control. There’s so many things that you just, oh my goodness, then so much learning and all of that. So, what have been some of the toughest things?

Keisha Greaves:

I would say, as you mentioned, you nailed it. Someone even living with a disability and running a business, it could be a lot. I tell people, I’m like, I wake up each day. I’m not knowing what my body wants to feel like. There’s some days my body’s so tired when my home health aides may come to get me out the bed. And I’m just like, my body is just so exhausting. I’m like, I can’t even get out of bed right now where I just feel like I need to just reset and just let the body rest. So, definitely it has its challenges. It’s like in this muscular dystrophy, I tell people I’m, as much as people may think, oh, exercise, it will go away or take medicine or drink this, it’s like, no, this is here to stay. This muscular dystrophy, I didn’t ask for it. It came out of nowhere. And I pretty much, it controls me. I wake up every day and this muscular dystrophy tells me what it wants to do.

So, kind of balancing that and running a business can have its challenges. But like I said, being featured on podcasts like yours or getting awesome messages definitely keeps me motivated and inspired to keep going. But I also realize it’s okay to just chill and relax a day because I’m like, my body is exhausted. I’m living with muscular dystrophy. I’m like, I got to remember that. And I’m like, some people may forget that, but I’m like, it’s when the muscles just pretty much deteriorate your whole body. And it pretty much affects the whole body where it’s like I said, I don’t have control over it. I can’t say, “Hey, muscle dystrophy, you come back tomorrow. I have a fashion show today.” So, it kind all depends, but it’s like I just try to balance it all. And like I said, being in the different support groups have definitely helped me along the way because like I always said, yes, I may get the support of family and friends, but there’s nothing like talking to somebody who knows what it’s like living with a disability every day while also running a business.

Melinda Wittstock:

Oh, I can only imagine. So, do you have a lot of people helping you? How big is your team?

Keisha Greaves:

Well, my team was if Girls Chronically Rock, it’s solely me just running the business. So, I am just running that. And then as far as the nonprofits, I am now in the midst of getting board members on top of that as well because I’m like it is becoming a lot. I’m like, Keisha, I can’t do it all. And then as far as my home health aides, I have a good amount of five or six people where yes, they help me with my everyday needs, and thank goodness the insurance pays them.

But then I also, I’m glad that they also help me with Girls Chronically Rock as well. So, when I get orders in, I learned them, taught them how to package them, put my business cards in, tag it, and ship it out. So, I have that solid two that I trust with packaging my orders. And I’m looking at it later on down the long run love. Yeah, they’re my home health aides now, but hopefully I will make some more money with Girls Chronically Rock, become famous where they’re my home health aides slash assistant, and they’re getting the money too that they well deserve.

Melinda Wittstock:

I am beyond inspired that you’ve done all of this pretty much by yourself. I mean, without a team, every entrepreneur needs, needs a team. So, it sounds like you would love to have a team, but you need the funding, I suppose, right?

Keisha Greaves:

Yeah, exactly.

Melinda Wittstock:

So, you’re completely bootstrapped. Have you had any investment?

Keisha Greaves:

Yeah, pretty much. So, pretty much I collaborated with a organization out here called PYD, Partners Youth for People with Disabilities. They sometimes once a year will send me an intern, and thankfully they pay for that, but that’s the most help I had besides my aides. So, I am looking to get funding. I want to bring in a team of people. Like I said, it’s a lot, the muscular dystrophy is progressing. Just doing things on the sewing machine, I’m not able to do it like how I used to. So yes, I would like to bring on teams for my profit Girls Chronically Rock, and also board members for my nonprofits.

Melinda Wittstock:

I mean, that’s the thing that stands between any entrepreneur and scaling because I could imagine your business being relevant not only in the United States, but beyond.

Keisha Greaves:

Right.

Melinda Wittstock:

But you need your marketing team and your sales team and your business development, all the things right?

Keisha Greaves:

Right.

Melinda Wittstock:

I’m curious, I guess, well, one of the things that’s tricky about raising money is that investors always look at the size of the addressable market. How many people, how many can you sell? All this kind of stuff, looking for a return on their investment.

Keisha Greaves:

Right.

Melinda Wittstock:

And so, that makes it’s one thing to say, yeah, this is definitely a multi-billion dollar business because we address a market of 10 million or 20 million people or whatever paying us X, but it’s harder if by just definition, you have a smaller market. However, you have to think, there must be folks in the fashion industry that may be willing to invest in this by giving you, or special, I don’t know, just use of their teams or something like that. Is that something that you’ve looked into?

Keisha Greaves:

Yeah, I definitely have. I looked at its kind of just hard of finding the right people. And then I’m just hoping, one day I’ve thought of putting on my creative cap where I love watching funny videos on TikTok, and I’m like, maybe I need to incorporate something where a video gets attention of somebody where they’re like, Hey, I want to invest in her. Because I’m like, yes, I’m doing my startup and trying to fund getting loans and things like that. But I’m like, sometimes it helps when a video goes viral. I’ve been trying to get attention of Summer Blair recently was diagnosed with MS, and I’m like, to get her in one of my T-shirts, I feel like would be awesome.

So, I kind of feel like for me, I’m at this point where I’m just looking for to get someone, I just need that person’s attention where they’re like, Hey, Keisha, let me give you a blank check. And so yes, that’s how I’m thinking because I’m like, the loans, yes, I’ve gotten grants from my city of Cambridge and I’m on Hello Alice. But it’s like, I need that money, as they say. So, it’s like I said, to pay my aides and pay the team I want to build because I’m looking to build this empire. So, that’s kind of the root I’m thinking of right now, of just getting that funding where I feel like other ways haven’t helped so much, if that makes sense.

Melinda Wittstock:

It does, it does.

Melinda Wittstock:

You’re a force of nature and doing so much good for the world. And I just want to thank you for putting on your wings and flying with us, and I want to make sure that everybody can interact with you on social media. So, what’s the best way to find you and support you on social?

Keisha Greaves:

Sure. So yes, I am on social media. All Girls Chronically Rock. On clothing, on Instagram, Girls Chronically Rock on Facebook, and Girls Chronically Rock on TikTok. So yeah, please feel free. Send me a message. I’d love to hear from you. And then you can purchase my items at girlschronicallyrock.com.

Melinda Wittstock:

Wonderful. Well, thank you so much, Keisha. It’s such a delight to speak with you.

Keisha Greaves:

Thank you for having me. I appreciate it.