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it’s all about clearing out the junk in your own trunk to eliminate as much of your own emotional residue out of your system so that you can show up fully and confidently and stand in your true value and worth. Those ideas and beliefs that we start to take on as children is when every time our dignity gets violated and those beliefs about our own value and worth, they stick, man. They stay there in our system for years and years and decades. So as women entrepreneurs, it’s really about removing any of the limiting beliefs that are really holding you back. The blinders caused by fear or scarcity or limiting beliefs that keep us from taking our rightful place at the table and creating the positive and powerful impacts that we can simply because we are women and we have a unique perspective to share.
Look back at your life and chances are there are some repeating patterns some good, some bad. Perhaps you attract narcissists or emotionally unavailable partners into your life; perhaps your success somehow always gets sabotaged, or perhaps you make money again and again only to lose it again and again. We all have repeating patterns and Michele Molitor says it’s all about tangles of subsconscious beliefs not only from our own experiences as children but also from our maternal lineage. Today we get into all of that and the best tools and approaches to release what’s blocking you from your best life.
MELINDA
Hi, I’m Melinda Wittstock and welcome to Wings of Inspired Business, where we share the inspiring entrepreneurial journeys, epiphanies, and practical advice from successful female founders … so you have everything you need at your fingertips to build the business and life of your dreams. I’m a 5-time serial entrepreneur and the CEO and founder of Podopolo, the AI-powered interactive app revolutionizing podcast discovery and discussion and making podcasting profitable for creators. I’d like to invite you to take a minute, download Podopolo from either app store, listen to the rest of this episode there, create and share your favorite short snippet with our viral clip sharing tool across social media or messaging app, and join the conversation with your questions, perspectives, experiences, and advice … Because together we’re stronger, and we all soar higher when we fly together.
Today we meet an inspiring entrepreneur who left the world of technology to help other entrepreneurs, executives and employees alike with her Rapid Rewiring process to help them find their voice and value.
Michele Molitor is the Founder and CEO of Nectar Consulting Inc. and co-author of the best-selling book “Breakthrough Healing.” Today we’re learning all about her Rapid Rewiring system to help you subconsciously remove the fear, self-doubt and blocks created by imposter syndrome to elevate your confidence and achieve greater success, well-being, and career satisfaction.
Michele will be here in a moment, and first,
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Are you a procrastinating perfectionist? A shapeshifting people pleaser? A reluctant resistor, anxious avoider or fearful follower? We all have subconscious blocks and beliefs that stand in the way of the success we want. So, what if these could be removed in 30 to 90 days? What would that mean for your life?
Today we’re going to talk about how to reclaim your brain to be in proactive alignment with your true self – rather than getting hijacked by events or derailed by your current circumstance. We also talk Imposter Syndrome, what triggers it, how to overcome it, plus the 5 Self Doubt Archetypes.
Michele Molitor is the Founder and CEO of Nectar Consulting Inc., where for almost 20 years she’s been using an expanding toolkit from hypnotherapy to reiki and beyond to help people claim their best lives. She’s also co-author of the best-selling book “Breakthrough Healing.”
Let’s put on our wings with the inspiring Michele Molitor and be sure to download the podcast app Podopolo so we can keep the conversation going after the episode.
Melinda Wittstock:
Michele, welcome to Wings.
Michele Molitor:
Thanks for having me, Melinda. I’m so happy to be here with you.
Melinda Wittstock:
Well, me too. And I love this concept of rapid rewiring. We all have so much work to do to rewire our brains with all the subconscious blocks and beliefs that we talk about a lot in the context of entrepreneurship on this show. What makes it rapid? I love the idea of it being rapid.
Michele Molitor:
Me too, because I’m a terribly impatient person. So I have been a professional coach, executive coach now for almost 23 years. And along my path, I am a learning junkie. I’ve always looked for the tools in my toolbox to work better, smarter, faster. And about seven years ago, I discovered a process called rapid transformational therapy or RTT. And in the process of going through this work for myself, I was able to create really powerful shifts in a very short period of time. Like weeks shifts were happening after decades of trying to get at some of these deeply held blocks of my own.
When I was offered the opportunity to get trained in this methodology, I very quickly said, yes, raised my hand, and went on to become certified as a rapid transformational therapy practitioner, certified hypnotherapist, and a heart healing practitioner. So the rapid rewiring is my unique combination that brings together hypnotherapy and coaching typically over a period of three to six months and working with clients. And in that time, we work at a particular cadence to get at the deeply held beliefs that are locked away in our subconscious mind that oftentimes we don’t even know they’re there. And they’re manifesting as even physical manifestations in our system that are holding us back and preventing us from achieving the life we really want and being able to thrive in really positive ways.
Melinda Wittstock:
So take me through the actual process. You have a client that comes through the door and says, “Oh my God, I’m having this problem with my relationships or with my team, or I have money blocks,” or, I don’t know. There’s such a long list of things that-
Michele Molitor:
Yes, there’s so many. Check, check, check, check.
Melinda Wittstock:
And sometimes we have all of them or elements or they’re woven together or some a bird’s nest of things. Take me through the process.
Michele Molitor:
Sure. So typically the clients who find me have tried a lot of other things. They’ve tried coaching, they’ve tried therapy, they’ve tried all sorts of various healing modalities, and they still have that unscratchable itch as I call it. The thing that they know that’s stuck in their system, but they don’t know how to move it out of the way, and they really don’t know where to find it to pull it out like a bad weed. So we start off with a deep dive intake session. I have a lot of questions, as you might assume, that I ask of my clients to help me understand the fuller picture of their life and the challenges that they’ve faced with personally and professionally. And that gives me a guide as to where to take them. So over a period of 90 days, I take clients through three separate hypnotherapy sessions and 10 coaching sessions, and they’re toggled back and forth.
And the hypnotherapy sessions are about two hours long. Everything is done over zoom. So I’ve worked with clients all over the globe, and in a hypnotherapy session, I’m basically taking you to a very relaxed, alpha brainwave state. It’s that half-awake, half asleep place that we all regularly experience. Like when you’re first coming out of a nap, for example, you’re awake, but your body’s really, really relaxed and you’re not quite ready to engage with the world. That’s the place that I take you to. And in that frame of mind, that wavelength, I’m able to talk with your subconscious mind, which is 90% of your brain power. Your conscious mind is only about 10%. So everything that’s ever happened to you, Melinda, is all neatly stored away in your subconscious mind. So I just go and have a conversation with that part of you and what’s creating this particular block and your mind will bubble up to the surface, the data points that you need to create greater understanding.
And with understanding comes power, because from there, then you can start to change your mind. You see, as kids, as children, our brains are sponges. We don’t have a fully grown brain until we’re about 25. So if you ever have experienced any trauma in your life, whether that’s a big T trauma or a little T trauma that sticks, it creates impressions in your mind. And then your child brain makes up things about what caused that trauma. What did I do wrong to deserve to be treated that way? I found through all my research that these are dignity violations. When our dignity, our sense of value and self-worth is stepped on or stepped over or completely decimated. And then we start to believe things about ourselves for lack of other information from the environment around us. And then those beliefs, they drop into your subconscious mind, and that’s what guides you through the world every day to keep you safe.
So next thing you know, you blink in, you’re an adult, and you’re doing these things to keep you safe, which no longer really apply because you’re no longer a child. So we’re able to get at those root causes of those belief systems and transform them, literally pulling them out like a bad weed out of a garden, and replacing them with new empowering beliefs, habits and strategies for success. So out of each hypnotherapy session, a client will get a customized recording, a transformation recording as I call it, and then you listen to that recording every night as you drift off to sleep because your brain loves repetition. So you’re listening to new empowering habits and thoughts about yourself with really relaxing binaural beat music in my very relaxing hypnotherapy voice.
Melinda Wittstock:
And you have a great voice for it too. This is an aside, but when you do a meditation and if the voice isn’t right for you, it can be weirdly irritating.
Michele Molitor:
Yes, I know. I feel that way about Eckhart Tolle’s voice. I love him in his books. I just can’t listen to him.
Melinda Wittstock:
I know. Isn’t that funny? I think that is an issue. So I can see how the rapidity of this could work because say you take somebody who, I’ll use myself as an example, really, a lot of my personal transformation began with gratitude work, and then I couldn’t meditate. The only way I could get into a meditative state is with yoga or with activity. So gratitude and yoga, and then increasingly being able to actually meditate. And it was like affirmations, this and that. Gosh, ayahuasca, So many different things, but things still come up. But even just the conscious understanding of when triggered, that’s an opportunity because the only reason I’m experiencing this is because there must be something, there’s still some cobwebs in there that I need to release.
Michele Molitor:
I refer to those cobwebs as emotional residue. It’s the old beliefs that are locked in your nervous system at a cellular level throughout your body from, whether that’s yesterday or a week ago or decades ago or even lifetimes ago. There’s a lot of science now that proves that we inherit that emotional residue from our mothers. They’re literally passed down from generation to generation.
Melinda Wittstock:
So you have a mom say in the depression era who grew up in scarcity or had, and so you inherit all those money beliefs or had a bad relationship, so you inherit that, all that stuff. This is, what’s the word for it? It’s epigenetic.
Michele Molitor:
Yes, absolutely. That’s the science I’m pointing to. There’s a great book called Emotional Inheritance by Galit Atlas, PhD, and it’s quite fascinating the stories that she’s sharing as a therapist and a survivor of war in Israel. I mean, you think of when our body goes into fight, flight or freeze, there’s a chemical reaction that happens and your body is flooded with cortisol and adrenaline to protect you, to help you deal with a situation at hand. But if that’s happening on a consistent basis, your cells are made up of those chemicals. So if your mother lived through trauma that was ongoing, then that environment is literally passed on to the child in utero. The child is literally swimming in the soup of that, those emotions. So there’s so many fascinating stories about how adults get triggered by things that were actually trauma that their parents or their grandparents had experienced.
Melinda Wittstock:
It’s not just what happened to us in our lives, but it can go back generation and generations through the mother. So is this why a lot of people, they get old enough where you start to see patterns of things just repeating again and again?
Michele Molitor:
Yes. Absolutely. Because your mind loves consistency. We don’t like change. And if the environment, I call it the swimming in. As a child was one of chaos or one of yelling family members or angry family members, that’s your quote normal. That’s just what you know. You don’t know that there’s another way of being. So we unconsciously move towards what’s familiar. And if chaos is your familiar go-to place, then you will attract unconsciously more chaos in your life. That’s why folks who in relationship, you see, they keep unconsciously attracting the same person. It took me years to figure out that I kept attracting emotionally unavailable men. Why do I keep doing this? I couldn’t figure it out. I couldn’t figure it out until finally I did.
And then the whole thing shifted. It was like now it makes so much sense to me. Okay, great. So it’s all about creating that awareness. And when something is so deeply embedded in you, that’s where having someone outside of you with a fresh objective perspective is so invaluable because they can see the thing that stuck on the end of your nose. It’s like when you’re having lunch with a friend and you’re like, “Hey, Melinda, you got some lettuce stuck in your teeth.” You got to have somebody else tell you. There’s this thing that you can’t see, that you got to move out of the way.
Melinda Wittstock:
Yeah. So even with increasing consciousness, you can be in a position where there’s something, you’ve done all this work on yourself, but there’s still that little thing, and you’re trying to figure out how to release it, but you’re aware of it. You’re aware even of your conscious of all this, but it still can be hard to shift.
Michele Molitor:
Absolutely. And that’s where the deeper subconscious work is so valuable, because by tapping into your subconscious mind, you move past the critical judging mind that is your conscious mind, and allow those deeper levels to present themselves, because your subconscious will only allow you to see what you’re ready to see. So it’s an unlayering process that happens. I say, we are never done. There’s always another layer of the onion to peel away. And then you become a little lighter, a little brighter, a little more conscious, a little more clear in your power, your purpose, your passions of the world.
Melinda Wittstock:
So how many female entrepreneurs do you tend to work with? And I ask because I want to get into some of the specific blocks that female entrepreneurs could be having that impede their success.
Michele Molitor:
Well, my work is split. I work with both men and women, but it’s typically about a 60% women, 40% men split at any given time. And what I’ve found more predominantly with women is a much higher rate of dealing with imposter syndrome. I certainly went through it myself, so maybe my radar is keenly tuned to it, having been I bullied out of my high tech job as a creative director in web development many years ago. It was a super painful experience. So I can see it really clearly. As women, we tend to over give, to outperform just to stay equal with men at the table. Women are still paid at 22 cents less on the dollar than men even at this point in time. So women, and even in more particularly women of color, have to always, always, always go above and beyond to “prove” their value and worth at the table, even though nine times out of 10, they’re head and shoulders above their male peers.
Melinda Wittstock:
If you just look at the stats, even if you’re looking at the NASDAQ and companies that had a female founding team, or have a female executive like either CEO or on the executive team or on the board or whatever, wildly outperform those that don’t. startups that have a woman on the founding team five years out are something like 98% more likely to survive that five-year period than an all-male team. There’s so many stats that bear out that women in entrepreneurship do better, and yet again, 2% of the venture funding. But also when they are funded, they tend to get much smaller cheques. So like a seed round for a guy might be a million bucks, but for a woman it might be $250,000.
Michele Molitor:
Wow. I know. It’s just so heart wrenching.
Melinda Wittstock:
And then you’re kept to the same standards, so you’ve got to advance more with less. And then I think in a weird way, it’s one of the things that allows women or forces women to be better, because you’ve got to be more resilient. You got to do more faster, you got to do more with less, all this stuff. But it still keeps you stuck in that scarcity, and it’s really hard. And because it’s hard, it probably puts off a lot of women who could be very successful entrepreneurs from even going that route or thinking big enough to even qualify for venture funding, which means ostensibly that you have something that could conceivably be a billion dollar business. So not even getting to the point where you can even envision yourself doing something like that, which in and of itself needs to change.
So given that environment, the environment that you experience, but then I find myself saying, okay, well, what is it about me and my subconscious or anything going on there that I can fix within that environment? You’re swimming in an environment, but on the other hand, you’ve got the personal responsibility of your own actions, but also cleaning up your own subconscious.
Michele Molitor:
There’s many levels here.
Melinda Wittstock:
I wrestle with that. What’s your perspective on that?
Michele Molitor:
Well, it’s all about clearing out the junk in your own trunk to eliminate as much of your own emotional residue out of your system so that you can show up fully and confidently and stand in your true value and worth. As I mentioned earlier, those ideas and beliefs that we start to take on as children is when every time our dignity gets violated and those beliefs about our own value and worth, they stick, man. They stay there in our system for years and years and decades. So as women entrepreneurs, it’s really about removing any of the limiting beliefs that are really holding you back. The blinders caused by fear or scarcity or limiting beliefs that keep us from taking our rightful place at the table and creating the positive and powerful impacts that we can simply because we are women and we have a unique perspective to share.
Melinda Wittstock:
100%. So Michele, you talked before about imposter syndrome. Let’s get into that. I think a lot of us have that, whether we believe we do or not. And we talked a little bit already about how it manifests, but what’s the root cause of it? Is it just the society that we swim in?
Michele Molitor:
Again, there’s always going to be layers to these problems. I found through my years and years of study of this topic, Melinda, that imposter syndrome is the politically correct term, if you will, that allows us to talk about it. It’s the umbrella. But if you go to the underbelly of what imposter syndrome is, it’s really about self-doubt. And self-doubt is that lack of belief in yourself, that lack of confidence in yourself. And those beliefs are put into place once again by the environment, the behaviors, the experiences that we live through as kids, as children, and that self-doubt can manifest in different ways and put different blocks in place. I’ve identified actually five self-doubt archetypes.
There’s the procrastinating perfectionist, the fearful follower, the shapeshifter, the anxious avoider, and the reluctant resistor. And each one of those has a slightly different twist on the impact of how you fail to show up for yourself by over giving, by hiding out, by not listening to your own gut, intuition, for example. And each one of those is a protective layer that we wear to try and keep us safe because of the experiences that we’ve been through. So as you start to shed that emotional residue and you start to let go of the self-doubt, then we become more resilient to face the challenges because we all deal with self-doubt. But imposter syndrome is when it becomes a rampant in your system and it causes you to step away from the table instead of stepping up to the table. Does that make sense?
Melinda Wittstock:
So are the main tools to counter imposter syndrome, really, with the hypnosis and the rapid rewiring, is there anything else that we should be looking at?
Michele Molitor:
Well, the simple first step that you can take that anyone can take is really creating that level of awareness. Noticing when you’re holding yourself back, noticing when that feeling of self-doubt shows up in your body and recognizing it, noticing the thought that’s going with it. Well, maybe I’m not good enough, or maybe I’m not smart enough, or who am I? I don’t know if I’m ready. Just notice that negative thought. That’s the very first step. Awareness is the key here. And then just like with a radio station, we can tune into that negative thought or we can change the channel and we can tune into a different thought.
Melinda Wittstock:
And if you’re aware, if you’re in the present moment, you stand a chance of being able to consciously change that channel. If you’re not aware, it’s just like someone else is driving the bus. You’re not-
Michele Molitor:
Exactly.
Melinda Wittstock:
… incidental. You have no personal power. Everybody should be doing this. It almost should be part of the school system.
Michele Molitor:
Yes, it really should be. Actually, someone commented on one of my posts earlier today, “This should be for middle schoolers.” I’m like, “Yes. Oh my God, yes, it should be.
Melinda Wittstock:
Well, I remember with my daughter at around 13 and middle school, you know what girls go through in middle school. I mean, it’s a long list of things, but-
Michele Molitor:
It’s brutal.
Melinda Wittstock:
I did DBT with her. And it was very helpful because it helps her be very conscious of what was actually going on and be conscious with her thoughts. And she’s this unbelievable empath, and so it was confusing for her of what were her feelings and what were someone else’s feelings. And this just helped her to understand that and helped her the way through that she really didn’t have any of those issues, again, just as a result of doing that.
Michele Molitor:
That’s fantastic. It took me till my late thirties to figure out how much of an empath that I was. I figured it out once I became a coach because I was always made fun of for being so sensitive. You’re so sensitive.
Melinda Wittstock:
Oh my goodness. I’ve lived through that as well. And it’s so difficult to figure out what your boundaries are when you’re in empath as well. What’s you, what’s somebody else? Because you’re so empathetic. It’s so easy to take on everybody’s thing, and especially for you as a coach. I mean, it’s one thing because you’re surrounded by all the problems that you’re helping people with all day. What’s your-
Michele Molitor:
And honestly, that’s why I do my work over Zoom. I don’t work with people in person for… That is one of the reasons, because it creates a bit of an energetic barrier. I still feel very clearly what’s happening for my clients. I literally feel it in my body, what’s happening with the other person over there that I’m working with. But you’re right, it’s learning about how to create those energetic boundaries. So you’re allowing the goodness to come in, but not the bad energy to come in, not letting it glom on you or take over your own system. And when you can do that, then it becomes a superpower. Because then you can tune into other people and sense what’s happening for them and how you need to respond appropriately versus reacting from an unconscious place based in fear.
Melinda Wittstock:
These things are so important to anyone trying to succeed in entrepreneurship. And I bring that back. This is what this podcast is really about, that gosh, it’s hard enough to create a whole new concept from whole cloth or try and seize or disrupt a market or any of those things. Just like all the things you have to be as a founder to be able to pull that off. That’s not easy for anybody, not a man, not a woman or whatever, but without these skills, without doing this work, your chances are remote. So I think it’s necessary. It’s like necessary work for an entrepreneur, I think.
Michele Molitor:
Absolutely. I wholeheartedly agree.
Melinda Wittstock:
Wherever we begin. So you talk about five self-doubt archetypes. First of all, what are these five self-doubt archetypes? And then we’ll get into how they impact us and how we can overcome them.
Michele Molitor:
So the five self-doubt archetypes are the procrastinating perfectionist. These are the folks who overwork something, Matilda, “it’s perfect” before they’re ever willing to put anything out to be judged by others.
Melinda Wittstock:
Yeah. Okay. So that one, that procrastinating perfectionist, that’s an enemy of entrepreneurship right there.
Michele Molitor:
Yes. It’s one of my personal favorites. The second one is the Shapeshifter. These folks are masterful at juggling multiple roles to please others because it’s their mode to keep them safe. These are folks who typically had very overbearing parental figures or even narcissistic parental or caregivers in their lives. It’s a really strong protective mechanism, the reluctant resistor. These are our friends who are too afraid to be seen or judged or rejected for their work. So they’re reluctant to even take on new challenges for fear of failure.
Then we have the anxious avoider, and those are folks who are scared. They’re so scared of being rejected for not knowing enough, for not having all the answers, so they don’t ask for help, and they have a very strong, I’ll just do it all by myself attitude. So they’re super tenacious, but they work in silos. And then the last one is the fearful follower, and these are folks who are too afraid to listen or to trust their own gut instincts and their own expertise. So they’re always following other people’s advice instead of carving their own path.
Melinda Wittstock:
So hearing you explain those, I think most people probably, and a lot of women are a combination of all of them in a way. How often do these intersect?
Michele Molitor:
They do, and it depends. Everybody’s going to have one that’s most predominant. I jokingly say, “They’re the love languages for your self-doubt.” We probably have all five, but there’s going to be one or two that are going to lead the pack. So my two that used to lead the pack is the anxious avoider and the procrastinating perfectionist. As a former graphic designer, I can tell when something’s two pixels off just by eyeballing it. No, can’t do it. It’s not done yet. You got to fix that. So you got to learn when to let go of something and just move forward.
Melinda Wittstock:
Yeah. The 80/20 rule, that’s very important for anybody building a team or scaling a team, because if you combine that one with the anxious avoider, for instance, that’s pretty toxic as a leader of a team, because you’re going to end up not asking for help, and then when you do whatever someone does, isn’t going to be done the way that you would do it or as good as you. So I have to do it all myself. And then you get stuck in that perfectionism, which is-
Michele Molitor:
It leads to overwhelm and burnout and down the rabbit hole you go.
Melinda Wittstock:
Yeah. And I see that so often in entrepreneurship. I mean, we joke on this podcast quite often, there should be an AA for perfectionists because women tend to be perfectionists. And it goes back to that whole imposter syndrome thing where we have to [inaudible 00:32:49], we have to be better than, so it leads rather than a more positive mastery of something. It leads to that nitpicking perfectionist. And nobody wants to work for a perfectionist. You’ll lose a team or get a substandard team faster than you can snap your fingers if you’re behaving that way as a team leader.
Michele Molitor:
Yes, absolutely. So one of the amazing tools I’ve found to help combat these self-doubt archetypes and imposter syndrome is a really amazing tool called Dignify. And it’s not a personality assessment, it’s actually an emotional motivational survey. It’s a patented survey actually, and in it helps identify your top five dignity traits along with your doss and don’ts. How do you want to be treated and how don’t you want to be treated? Because we’re all born with dignity, but we’re not always treated with dignity.
Michele Molitor:
Yeah. And I’ll be happy to share with you a special code that you can share with your listeners so they can go and take it for free if they’d like. It takes about 10 minutes to take it. And yeah, it’s quite profound the information that it reflects back to you. And not only is it powerful for individuals just to understand what is it that motivates me and when I stand in my dignity and my value and my worth, but it’s a great communication tool. So originally it was created by its founder as a way to better understand how to speak to his stepson because they were so vastly different in their personalities. But it’s turned into this really powerful tool that gets used with teams worldwide now. So I love it.
I use it both with my one-to-one clients and with my executive teams that I work with, because it literally gives you a roadmap to how to have conversations with another person that are psychologically safe. It literally tells you, ask Melinda this question. It couldn’t be more straightforward. But the thing that’s so amazing to me, and I’ve never seen this in any other tool that I’ve ever used, is that it simply asks you, “Well, how do you want to be treated and how don’t you want to be treated?” We don’t often get asked that, and we certainly don’t have conversations about it on the regular with people we work with. So imagine how understanding another person at this level can help lower misinterpretations, misassumptions, miscommunications, and increase understanding and collaboration and productivity.
Melinda Wittstock:
I can imagine how your work unearths these five self-doubt archetypes and helps people recover from them and step into really who they are and their power. A lot about entrepreneurship though is also being resilient. It necessitates being really good at embracing change and failure part of the program. So how you navigate that in an unshakeable way?
Michele Molitor:
Sure. Well, I’ve found that the key to becoming unshakeable is by identifying the self-doubt archetypes that are running you. Understanding the mindset of lack, of not enoughness, that it’s been hiding out in the dark corners of your subconscious that are quietly driving your bus. And when you can bring those to the light and change your mind about those things, you can much more confidently start to stand in your own value and worth. So then you can ask for what you deserve by being the leader that you know can be, by getting the team, the funding, the yeses that you need and deserve to take your project, your business to that next level of success.
Melinda Wittstock:
Well, I want to make sure, Michele, that everybody listening to this has an easy way to find you. What is the best way to find you and work with you?
Michele Molitor:
Sure. Well, you can find me at michelemolitor.com. That’s Michele with one L, and I’ll be sure to share with you links to my How to Become Unshakeable online membership as well, and a link to taking the dignify survey. So there’s some free goodies there for your listeners. And there’s a lot of great tools and wisdom that I have to share through my various programs, not only from me, but I have a lot of really smart friends who have joined me in my Expert Masterclass Library as well. So I’m happy to share all of that with your listeners.
Melinda Wittstock:
Well, thank you so much for putting on your wings and flying with us today.
Michele Molitor:
I love that. You’ll actually have to visit my Facebook page, Melinda, because through a meditation I had recently. I created this beautiful piece of artwork that is wings, actually. So I’ll share that with you in an email. You can check it out. But yeah, it came through in a beautiful healing meditation I was doing.
Melinda Wittstock:
How wonderful. It was, very much the inspiration for the name of this podcast came to me in a meditation as well, so how interesting.
Michele Molitor:
Yes, absolutely. I love it.
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